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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Mar 2017

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن

    This poll is useless for actually establishing majority views but it is quite interesting for other reasons.https://twitter.com/EveKeneinan/status/837594847708131328 …

    Helen Pluckrose added,

    Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن @EveKeneinan
    If you could eradicated utterly from the face of the earth ONE of the two following things, which would you choose?
    9:04 AM - 3 Mar 2017
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    3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Obviously non-believers would rather get rid of cancer than non-belief but I suspect many religious ppl would also eradicate cancer.

        2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Because of a respect for the right of other views to exist &a wish to end one form of suffering in this world. I wld not have voted this way

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        When I believed in a literal hell for non-believers, I wld have rationalised that this is way worse than cancer which is temporary suffering

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Ppl arguing underneath that religious ppl who'd eradicate atheism wld rather let thousands die than be disagreed with aren't seeing this.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        The problem with religion is not primarily authoritarianism & demands for conformity but a fatally skewed compassion due to false beliefs.

        1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Which leads to authoritarianism & demands for conformity, obviously. But not always. The not always ppl are interesting.

        3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        They either don't believe in Hell, don't believe non-believers go there or don't believe eternal torture is worse than cancer & eternal life

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Or they want non-believers to suffer horribly for all eternity, obviously. But most believers are not sadistic psychopaths.

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      10. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Tekthis‏ @tekthis1 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        but people that don't have the same religious beliefs as me are worse than cancer and should be eradicated... Sounds familiar.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @tekthis1

        That could be a strawman tho. Look at rest of the thread & tell me what you think?

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @tekthis1

        For a believer, the options cld be 'eradicate temporary suffering followed by eternal life' or 'eradicate eternal suffering.'

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Tekthis‏ @tekthis1 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I agree.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @tekthis1

        I think sometimes ppl fail to understand the power of beliefs taken to logical conclusions. Sometimes those people are religious.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Tekthis‏ @tekthis1 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        humans are capable of doing grate or terrible things for ideological reasons either religious or utopian beliefs.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @tekthis1

        So you're less concerned w/ what is true as how ppl behave? I am concerned w/ both but accept its only the latter I have a say in

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      9. Tekthis‏ @tekthis1 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        to an extent. We have proof the world is spherical. There really +/- evidence of some deity though I strongly suspect none.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      10. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Lotak‏ @LotakX 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It was nice knowing you! (I kid .... Cancer obviously)

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @LotakX

        But do you believe in Hell? Jews are often very vague on Hell but never heard one say non-believers go there.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Lotak‏ @LotakX 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Yes. We all go to hell. Even me! And you. It's a purgatory kind of place where you face up to your sins and repent.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Lotak‏ @LotakX 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @LotakX @HPluckrose

        But Judaism places little emphasis on the afterlife. It's about affecting the world here. Not worrying about the next world.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Lotak‏ @LotakX 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @LotakX @HPluckrose

        Hell is also. A temporary place. Apparently the maximum term is 12 months. And that's for the worst offenders.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @LotakX

        Jewish Hell is better than Christian or Muslim Hell then. Must be directly linked to evangelism & lack of.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      8. Lotak‏ @LotakX 4 Mar 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Possibly. Its just about purifying the soul making it ready for heaven. Not eternal. Yes. Anyone can get into heaven.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Lotak‏ @LotakX 4 Mar 2017
        Replying to @LotakX @HPluckrose

        Judaism is exclusive religion but not exclusive afterlife. Christianity / Islam non-exclusive religion but exclusive afterlife

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      10. End of conversation

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