Sometimes, American commitment to the Constitution gets a bit much. Trying to have ethical discussion & get told what constitution says.
I think we all feel that way. I tend to find I can only defend things which benefit human rights & freedom.
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I mean, who says ' I believe in the indefensible'? All genuine ppl are just doing the best they can &articulating it imperfectly
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you've hit on a rather big problem there. Plenty of (perhaps all to lesser or greater extents) people aren't genuine.
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That's why I said all genuine people.
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but even that is subjective. It all get messy very quickly.
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Humanity is messy. Got to keep trying to work thru it.
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indeed. It's ultimately a battle of ideas. What does a "good" outcome mean & can I persuade others I'm right. Etc.
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Or find out that I'm not & fix that. I'd be surprised if your aims were ever anything I'd consider illiberal.
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me too &a vice-versa. But I know there are many who would. Battle of ideas.
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Because we're not talking abt the same things
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