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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Matt Roberts‏ @j_razor101 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      we already do limit freedom of religion in this sense. You don't get to wear a niqab as a teacher. Or to court. Etc.

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    2. Matt Roberts‏ @j_razor101 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @j_razor101 @HPluckrose

      I se it it as more religion getting no special treatment. So as I say, it's one extreme or the other re schools.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @j_razor101

      But before we can say that religion shldn't get special treatment, shld see if there's any reason all shouldn't have it.

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    4. Matt Roberts‏ @j_razor101 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      agreed. And that's the argument I've tried to make. Perhaps not well. But I've tried ;-)

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @j_razor101

      No, I see that. I'll always go for as much freedom of expression & belief as I can.

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    6. Matt Roberts‏ @j_razor101 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      sure. But if you agree I can't turn up to work in my motherfucker T shirt, that's no more authoritarian than no headwear.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @j_razor101

      There's always a certain amount of arbitrariness, yes. We can either become absolutists & then apply it to everything ...

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @j_razor101

      ...or we can just try to address the big, important issues (that we won't agree on)

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    9. Matt Roberts‏ @j_razor101 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      on this topic, I think there's very little wiggle room. You either apply one extreme or the other with only marginal exceptions.

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    10. Matt Roberts‏ @j_razor101 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @j_razor101 @HPluckrose

      anything thing else becomes a can of worms immediately that can't be either logically defended or not exploited.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @j_razor101

      That might be what it comes down to. Otherwise you end up banning shit & in danger of your own shit being banned.

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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @j_razor101

          If every1 wears what they like to extreme,we have nudity &burquas.If complete control,can be forced into 1 or other by majority

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @j_razor101

          If I had to pick one or other, I'd go for complete freedom but in reality, we negotiate a balance.

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        4. Matt Roberts‏ @j_razor101 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          precisely. So it really all comes to argumentation & evidence (for me).I think my school uniform argument is backable.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @j_razor101

          I might not be clear on it then. You say go by consensus?

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