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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I'm not being clear. Ppl are telling me that its easy to tell religious headgear from non-religous. I'm questioning why former is privileged

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    2. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      One reason would be the Constitution "privileges" religious practice.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @DouglasLevene

      Why ethically? What is the ethical justification?

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    4. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      If you allow a broader exception for student likes/dislikes, you've eliminated the school's power entirely.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @DouglasLevene

      Why? What's the magic ingredient religious values have over secular ones?

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    6. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      But could argue that in terms of school discipline, kippahs or hajibs are less likely to cause trouble than gang colors and

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @DouglasLevene

      Really? You must know of conflict between Jews & Muslims? Violence in some areas?

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    8. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Forbidding religious headgear in public schools would force religious parents to send children to private schools

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @DouglasLevene

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Helen Pluckrose

      Not suggesting forbidding it.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/835982075576582144 …

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      Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
      Replying to @HPluckrose
      I'm not recommending more restrictions on religious ppl but extending the same rights & freedoms to non-religious people.
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    10. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Traditionally, it's considered disrespectful to wear a hat indoors. Men are expected to remove hats indoors.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @DouglasLevene

      OK but that's just an expectation. People don't have to if its important to them to keep it on.

      3:31 PM - 26 Feb 2017
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        2. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          How are schools to judge whe/ that's a good enough reason? Requiring a note from religious leader removes subjectivity.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @DouglasLevene

          They don't. They decide certain perameters for smart headcovering & all students have the same freedom within it.

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        4. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Theoretically possible but practically very hard to come up w/ objective standards, especially for boys

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @DouglasLevene

          Not at all. We have uniforms here. They describe the range of shoes allowed & jewellery. Can do same with hats.

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        6. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Men's hats indoors are disrespectful. I'm willing to make narrow exception for religious conviction, not for fashion or style.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @DouglasLevene

          OK. I have no reason to respect that.It's largely arbitrary. I need some ethical justification why its OK for you but not you

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        8. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Religion is a matter of conscience, and fashion/style are frivolous.

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        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @DouglasLevene

          Other value systems are also a matter of conscience. Religions appear to be a bit silly, tbh. Rather petty and outdated.

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        2. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          So what is the important reason a student might have to keep a baseball hat on? Turned around with the bill in the back?

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @DouglasLevene

          I don't know of any. If a school has a smart requirement, he could wear a smart hat if believed in covering the head.

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        4. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I'm going to go back to tradition. Wearing a hat indoors is disrespectful + you need a good, respectful reason to do do.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @DouglasLevene

          So it would be OK for a Muslim to wear this in school but not a non-religious person?pic.twitter.com/wG3fMDfqFl

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