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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted

      Is this not more about religious privilege than anything else? Is the problem not that they want to reserve headgear for one religion? https://twitter.com/LibyaLiberty/status/835932719280422915 …

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I realise this might be intended to make it a bit harder for Muslims - inconvenience of getting a note - but impossible for everyone else.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Presumably, they also make exemptions for people wanting to wear other religious headgear.

      4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I'm not being clear. Ppl are telling me that its easy to tell religious headgear from non-religous. I'm questioning why former is privileged

      5 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    5. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      One reason would be the Constitution "privileges" religious practice.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @DouglasLevene

      Why ethically? What is the ethical justification?

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    7. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      If you allow a broader exception for student likes/dislikes, you've eliminated the school's power entirely.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @DouglasLevene

      Why? What's the magic ingredient religious values have over secular ones?

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    9. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      But could argue that in terms of school discipline, kippahs or hajibs are less likely to cause trouble than gang colors and

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
      Replying to @DouglasLevene

      Really? You must know of conflict between Jews & Muslims? Violence in some areas?

      3:10 PM - 26 Feb 2017
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        2. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Forbidding religious headgear in public schools would force religious parents to send children to private schools

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @DouglasLevene

          Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Helen Pluckrose

          Not suggesting forbidding it.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/835982075576582144 …

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          I'm not recommending more restrictions on religious ppl but extending the same rights & freedoms to non-religious people.
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        4. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Traditionally, it's considered disrespectful to wear a hat indoors. Men are expected to remove hats indoors.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @DouglasLevene

          OK but that's just an expectation. People don't have to if its important to them to keep it on.

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        6. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          How are schools to judge whe/ that's a good enough reason? Requiring a note from religious leader removes subjectivity.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @DouglasLevene

          They don't. They decide certain perameters for smart headcovering & all students have the same freedom within it.

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        8. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Theoretically possible but practically very hard to come up w/ objective standards, especially for boys

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        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @DouglasLevene

          Not at all. We have uniforms here. They describe the range of shoes allowed & jewellery. Can do same with hats.

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        2. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Yes, Moslem violence against Jewish kids is a problem, better solution is more police

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @DouglasLevene

          In schools? Could that be the solution for gangs too? Rather than banning gang symbols? (Devil's advocate)

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        4. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Well, big cities like NYC and LA have lots of cops in the schools, not the best atmosphere, but necessary to keep order.

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        1. (((Douglas Levene)))‏ @DouglasLevene 26 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Don't think too many parents would send kids to private schools b/c they can't wear favorite baseball cap

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