Freedom of speech is the freedom to express ideas. Doesn't include inducing stampedes, libel, breaking confidentiality etc.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
ok, so there are things that can be said out loud that deserve punishment, but you're saying those don't count as 'free speech'?
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Replying to @iDanSimpson
Well no. The principle of free speech is well understood to be the right to express all ideas.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @iDanSimpson
Free speech is not anything that can be said. If I say 'Give me £1000 or I'll tell everyone your secrets' that's a crime.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
to illustrate, you just said it to me but it wasn't a crime
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Replying to @iDanSimpson @HPluckrose
ok. So the difference is: seriousness.
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Replying to @iDanSimpson
Yes! Whether or not I'm actually blackmailing you! If we're discussing the ethics of blackmail, no.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @iDanSimpson
It's OK to talk abt blackmail but not actually do it. Discuss the *idea* of blackmail, not do the *action* of blackmail.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
i appreciate your patience. Here's what I'm hearing: 'Speech is free as long as doesnmt accompany an illegal action' ...?
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Replying to @iDanSimpson
Freedom to express ideas & opinions. 'I think this..' 'My opinion is that...' Whether or not this is legal
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I am simply defending the righ to discuss all ideas, views, opinions even horrible ones. No other kind of speech right now.
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