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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. dan simpson‏ @iDanSimpson 3 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      how absolute? Counter examples: Yelling fire in a theater-Yelling bomb on a plane-Making threats while holding a deadly weapon

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Feb 2017
      Replying to @iDanSimpson

      Freedom of speech is the freedom to express ideas. Doesn't include inducing stampedes, libel, breaking confidentiality etc.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. dan simpson‏ @iDanSimpson 3 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      ok, so there are things that can be said out loud that deserve punishment, but you're saying those don't count as 'free speech'?

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Feb 2017
      Replying to @iDanSimpson

      Well no. The principle of free speech is well understood to be the right to express all ideas.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @iDanSimpson

      Free speech is not anything that can be said. If I say 'Give me £1000 or I'll tell everyone your secrets' that's a crime.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. dan simpson‏ @iDanSimpson 3 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      to illustrate, you just said it to me but it wasn't a crime

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    7. dan simpson‏ @iDanSimpson 3 Feb 2017
      Replying to @iDanSimpson @HPluckrose

      ok. So the difference is: seriousness.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Feb 2017
      Replying to @iDanSimpson

      Yes! Whether or not I'm actually blackmailing you! If we're discussing the ethics of blackmail, no.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @iDanSimpson

      It's OK to talk abt blackmail but not actually do it. Discuss the *idea* of blackmail, not do the *action* of blackmail.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. dan simpson‏ @iDanSimpson 3 Feb 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      i appreciate your patience. Here's what I'm hearing: 'Speech is free as long as doesnmt accompany an illegal action' ...?

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Feb 2017
      Replying to @iDanSimpson

      Freedom to express ideas & opinions. 'I think this..' 'My opinion is that...' Whether or not this is legal

      7:25 AM - 3 Feb 2017
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        1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Feb 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @iDanSimpson

          I am simply defending the righ to discuss all ideas, views, opinions even horrible ones. No other kind of speech right now.

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