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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Feb 2017

    Why is it so hard to understand that defending free speech is not a commitment not to be very critical of its content? This is very basic.

    12:39 PM - 2 Feb 2017
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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Freedom of speech principles came about because we all hate some ideas. Point is, you can still hate them. Just don't stop or punish them.

        1 reply 3 retweets 11 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        We really have regressed if we're having to explain this basic principle & why ' but the ideas are really really awful' doesn't nullify it.

        1 reply 2 retweets 9 likes
      4. Flightless Bird‏ @NoflyBird 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Isn't it really more a question of where to draw the line between protected speech and incitement?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @NoflyBird

        No. No-one is defending the right to incite violence. That right doesn't exist.

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      6. Flightless Bird‏ @NoflyBird 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It seemed to me you were saying that no idea is ever so awful that it shouldn't be protected.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @NoflyBird

        All ideas can be expressed, yes. That doesn't include plotting any harmful action or inciting any harmful action.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Flightless Bird‏ @NoflyBird 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Wouldn't you say that some hate speech would have to be considered incitement, though?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @NoflyBird

        Yes, when it incites.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      10. End of conversation
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      2. ozzySabrClawz#FreeRaif#SaveTommy#FreeInfowars‏ @boaomega22 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        @nr1woman you initiated action w what you should be expected to know could cause charm and showed indifference to results.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @boaomega22 @nr1woman

        Again, yes. I'm not sure how this relates?

        5 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. ozzySabrClawz#FreeRaif#SaveTommy#FreeInfowars‏ @boaomega22 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @nr1woman

        protect from harm nor egos either.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @boaomega22 @nr1woman

        Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Helen Pluckrose

        https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/825708933956395010 …

        Helen Pluckrose added,

        Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
        Replying to @HPluckrose
        Pls don't be a monologue inflictor. If I say something abt, eg feminism, I don't need a 10 tweet introduction to current problems w feminism
        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. ozzySabrClawz#FreeRaif#SaveTommy#FreeInfowars‏ @boaomega22 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @nr1woman

        twitter public message board. Don't want comments don't post!

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @boaomega22 @nr1woman

        I do want comments. I'm just suggesting interaction rather than monologue introduction to free speech

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. ozzySabrClawz#FreeRaif#SaveTommy#FreeInfowars‏ @boaomega22 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @nr1woman

        limit of space. Clarity of thought to readers. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @boaomega22 @nr1woman

        OK. Well, thanks for the introduction to principle of free speech.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      10. End of conversation
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      2. William Bock‏ @villhelmbock 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It's not. People aren't that dumb. They just pretend to be to try and stop their own views being criticized.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @villhelmbock

        They really don't get it. Genuinely think defending the right to speak implies defending the speech.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. William Bock‏ @villhelmbock 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Oh I think we're talking freely about two different things here🙂

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. End of conversation
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      2. ozzySabrClawz#FreeRaif#SaveTommy#FreeInfowars‏ @boaomega22 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        @nr1woman saying you hate x and wish it wasn't there is free speech! Posting a reward to kill x b/c you hate them is a crime!

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Feb 2017
        Replying to @boaomega22 @nr1woman

        Yes.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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