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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 21 Jan 2017
      Replying to @BristolBen @TamaraBrouwer1 @christianjbdev

      I've said 'That's not music. It's noise' abt techno stuff & claimed music defined by melody.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Ben‏ @BristolBen 21 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @TamaraBrouwer1 @christianjbdev

      Music is recognisable the world over, even when we don't like the sound of it.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 21 Jan 2017
      Replying to @BristolBen @TamaraBrouwer1 @christianjbdev

      That's different objective criteria to 'requires melody'. Neither is relevant to ppl enjoying it

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Ben‏ @BristolBen 21 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @TamaraBrouwer1 @christianjbdev

      Enjoying it is irrelevant. It just need to be recognisable as music (not a recording of ->

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    5. Ben‏ @BristolBen 21 Jan 2017
      Replying to @BristolBen @HPluckrose and

      a waterfall or babies crying) to be art.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 21 Jan 2017
      Replying to @BristolBen @TamaraBrouwer1 @christianjbdev

      No, that's the point. Art is an experience. Fitting objective criteria less relevant.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Ben‏ @BristolBen 21 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @TamaraBrouwer1 @christianjbdev

      It's a *specific* kind of experience. If we allow any experience to be art, then the word->

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 21 Jan 2017
      Replying to @BristolBen @TamaraBrouwer1 @christianjbdev

      It's an object made to produce an aesthetic response. No way to tell ppl it;s not art.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Ben‏ @BristolBen 21 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @TamaraBrouwer1 @christianjbdev

      I'm not denying ppl the right to produce or enjoy whatever they want.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Ben‏ @BristolBen 21 Jan 2017
      Replying to @BristolBen @HPluckrose and

      I'm just making a philosophical argument that (I hope) might clarify semantics.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 21 Jan 2017
      Replying to @BristolBen @TamaraBrouwer1 @christianjbdev

      I don't think it does. It just clarifies your understanding of art which I feel misses point.

      10:32 AM - 21 Jan 2017
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        2. Ben‏ @BristolBen 21 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @TamaraBrouwer1 @christianjbdev

          I wasn't discussing the point (purpose) of art at all, only its definition ->

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 21 Jan 2017
          Replying to @BristolBen @TamaraBrouwer1 @christianjbdev

          But I think it is defined by its purpose. Can we leave it here?

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Tamara Brouwer‏ @TamaraBrouwer1 21 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @BristolBen

          See what your decisiveness has caused @christianjbdev ? Hours of debating art. 😜

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 21 Jan 2017
          Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1 @BristolBen

          Lol. @christianjbdev has largely left us to it! Very wise.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        6. (((Christian JB)))  🐌‏ @christianjbdev 21 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @TamaraBrouwer1 @BristolBen

          I don't know what to say!

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. (((Christian JB)))  🐌‏ @christianjbdev 21 Jan 2017
          Replying to @christianjbdev @HPluckrose and

          I think I'd prob agree with Ben a bit if we were talking about incredibly abstract modern art,

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        8. (((Christian JB)))  🐌‏ @christianjbdev 21 Jan 2017
          Replying to @christianjbdev @HPluckrose and

          I dunno, some types of art I think you have to question whether *anyone* is really deriving any joy,

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        9. (((Christian JB)))  🐌‏ @christianjbdev 21 Jan 2017
          Replying to @christianjbdev @HPluckrose and

          or whether it's just a status-signalling thing. Showing off how intellectual you are by pretending

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