You couldn't, for eg, claim a Mills & Boon novel as postmodern lit. Needs self- consciousness...
Ah? So post-structuralism, deconstruction etc exist but u'd not call it postmodern
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Indeed - but those are philosophical rather than artistic movements.
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They're not connected? I can see how they are in literature.
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There are some early works by Christopher Butler (long before his VSI) and also....
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...David Lodge in which they essentially distinguish pre-1945 modernism and .....
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...post-1945 post-modernism (in Butler's case, looking at cinema, art, music too)...
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...which makes some sense, but I find the idea of a later cultural movement which...
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...entails a fundamental break with modernism to be very unconvincing.
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Postmodernism is largely unconvincing, I think. Trying to break with everything.
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Where do Baudrillard, Lyotard etc & associated ideas come in?
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Baudrillard unconvincing. Think Lyotard later repudiated La condition postmoderne
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