This is the problem. Ppl voting on big, noble themes like sovereignty & not understanding all the EU does.
I think we agree tho I was seeing the details as the complex facts of the matter neglected for unrealistic ideal of sovereignty
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@DuncanCastles I likely have an incomplete view from over here, but that doesn't sound like the Brexiters I know. -
Well, its a parody. Ask them how they went abt researching the economy & see if they say 'but sovereignty!'
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What I’ve heard are variations on ‘we expect an economic hit, maybe a social one as well, worth the risks anyway’.>
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The main factors I hear are, yes, sovereignty, but more immigration, and the EU's opaque unresponsive bureaucracy.
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The issues they have with the EU seem genuine, and there doesn’t seem to be a path to addressing them from within.
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One can certainly argue that Leaving is worse, but pretending the Leavers are just pointless idiots isn’t that.
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I'm not arguing that leavers are pointless idiots. I'm arguing that grand themes with understanding or plans no good
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Whats unrealistic about wanting democratic control over who your lawmakers are?
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Nothing. Big picture. I'm out of this conversation now. Been having the same one for three days.
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