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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Jan 2017
      Replying to @pogsurf

      Cogito ergo sum? Yes, unless our whole understanding of 'something' is flawed.

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    2. Martin Wiesner‏ @pogsurf 16 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Slightly different to Descarte's claim. I don't claim there must be an "I" thinking.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Jan 2017
      Replying to @pogsurf

      But is it via yourself that you make the claim that something exists?

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    4. Martin Wiesner‏ @pogsurf 16 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      The self could be an illusion. But there is definitely something there.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Jan 2017
      Replying to @pogsurf

      But you can only say this because you perceive it.

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    6. Martin Wiesner‏ @pogsurf 16 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Something perceives it. Whether there is a "self" there is moot, at least to me.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Jan 2017
      Replying to @pogsurf

      How do you know that something perceives anything, if that something is not you?

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    8. Martin Wiesner‏ @pogsurf 16 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      You are using the word "perceive". My claim was only that "something exists". This must be true.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Jan 2017
      Replying to @pogsurf

      Why?

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    10. Martin Wiesner‏ @pogsurf 16 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I cannot see any possible way to refute it.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Jan 2017
      Replying to @pogsurf

      There's nothing to refute yet. You have not said why you think something exists.

      5:30 PM - 16 Jan 2017
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @pogsurf

          I assumed it was coz you know your mind exists. That's the only thing you have absolute evidence of. That you are thinking.

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        3. Martin Wiesner‏ @pogsurf 16 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          How so? I could be a bot. I could be a dream. I could be delusion you are suffering from.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Jan 2017
          Replying to @pogsurf

          Yes, exactly, you could be a delusion of mine. I could be a delusion of urs. Each of us can only be sure of our own thoughts.

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        2. Martin Wiesner‏ @pogsurf 16 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Do you doubt it yourself? I think you'd be very unusual in this respect.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Jan 2017
          Replying to @pogsurf

          No, not at all. I have concrete evidence that I am thinking & so my thoughts, my mind exists.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @pogsurf

          It's possible that that's the only thing that does & everything else is an illusion of mine but to function, I cannot assume this.

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