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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. lacey secutores‏ @lacey9020 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @christianjbdev

      I had the job of editing newsletter for US secular humanist society before. Their ethics code sounded like religion w/o god.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @lacey9020 @christianjbdev

      What does that sound like? What makes something a religion rather than any other kind of value system?

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    3. lacey secutores‏ @lacey9020 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

      My secular humanists were most interested in making fun of "deists," to entertain themselves. Unnecessary to me.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @lacey9020 @christianjbdev

      Ok but what is it that makes something religious rather than any other kind of non-religious value system?

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    5. lacey secutores‏ @lacey9020 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

      It is belief in an external authority or code, based on holiness or God, as opposed to self-choice for good.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @lacey9020 @christianjbdev

      I'd have thought that was a large part of it, yes. Do secular humanists have that?

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    7. lacey secutores‏ @lacey9020 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

      I thought some to be a bit nuts, selfish, needing to make fun of others and feel superior, in-the-know.

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    8. lacey secutores‏ @lacey9020 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @lacey9020 @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

      But what what written down as the ethical code was quite good, somewhat enlightened.

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    9. lacey secutores‏ @lacey9020 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @lacey9020 @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

      Self-reflection is always important, to question basic assumptions, processes and own behavior.

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    10. lacey secutores‏ @lacey9020 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @lacey9020 @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

      People need common sense in making moral judgments, otherwise you get some wanting to cut off people's heads.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @lacey9020 @christianjbdev

      We seem to have drifted. I was mostly interested in how you defined 'religious.'

      3:23 PM - 11 Jan 2017
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        2. lacey secutores‏ @lacey9020 11 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

          Religious is a moral ideology, shared ethical paradigm.It includes Chinese traditional cultural values/customs.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jan 2017
          Replying to @lacey9020 @christianjbdev

          OK, well if its any moral ideology, I'm not anti-religious. I just disbelieve in gods.

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        4. lacey secutores‏ @lacey9020 11 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

          Chinese gods are treated more like Santa, not taken seriously, playful mythology.

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        5. lacey secutores‏ @lacey9020 11 Jan 2017
          Replying to @lacey9020 @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

          Confucianism is a system of rational ethical rules to best govern the kingdom, to govern the patriarchy.

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        6. lacey secutores‏ @lacey9020 11 Jan 2017
          Replying to @lacey9020 @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

          Of course, it was oppressive to women in the family, especially to the daughter-in-law and maids.

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        7. lacey secutores‏ @lacey9020 11 Jan 2017
          Replying to @lacey9020 @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

          Some Chinese think only Christianity and Buddhism and Taoism are religions. Confucianism is embedded.

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        8. lacey secutores‏ @lacey9020 11 Jan 2017
          Replying to @lacey9020 @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

          Christianity is often antithetical to traditional Chinese culture and other beliefs, can be very snobbish.

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        9. lacey secutores‏ @lacey9020 11 Jan 2017
          Replying to @lacey9020 @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

          Problem with Christianity is monotheism, belief in an all powerful jealous God. God concept is thus rejected.

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