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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @Banned_Ali

      It does imply importance due to relationships to someone else but that works for men too.

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    2.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      It's an emotional argument ("You like your mother/sister/daughter -> care about women") but again, nothing about it...

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    3.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @Banned_Ali @HPluckrose

      .. suggests that women are lesser. The only way to get there w/o adding extra baggage is by assuming motherhood is subservience.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @Banned_Ali

      Oh no. Neither narrative says that women are lesser. They say devoting life to husband, kids, home is noble & important.

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    5.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Apparently the feminists attacking poor @sweden did take it to mean women are lesser.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @Banned_Ali @sweden

      Did they? USually its coz they think it implies women *shld* be seen as mothers/wives etc. Not politicians, doctors etc

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    7.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Well yes. And they think that makes women inferior (because apparently being a stay at home mom is not a respectable choice?)

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @Banned_Ali

      That's not the point. Point is ppl not thinking women have anything else to offer the world & seeing them in only one role.

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    9.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Again, IMO that's not remotely implied by the statement. It requires a conflation of motherhood (giving birth) w/ motherhood...

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    10.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @Banned_Ali @HPluckrose

      .. as an occupation. One can give birth AND pursue a career. I think the people getting triggered by this bland statement are..

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jan 2017
      Replying to @Banned_Ali

      Because its the only one being mentioned. If someone says 'Women are our doctors, lawyers & scientists' different result.

      6:47 AM - 11 Jan 2017
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        2.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 11 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I'm pretty sure most people have a stronger emotional connection to their immediate family than to "doctors lawyers etc"

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        3.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 11 Jan 2017
          Replying to @Banned_Ali @HPluckrose

          ... again, it's an emotional appeal, not a valid argument.

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