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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Liam Moran‏ @lpearsemoran 9 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Yeah sure, we CAN do it, but it's no where near our default position Once it's something we care about it takes conscious effort

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    2. Liam Moran‏ @lpearsemoran 9 Jan 2017
      Replying to @lpearsemoran @HPluckrose

      What we care about is different for libs and cons, and the amount of conscious effort available is a limited resource (Kahneman)

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    3. Liam Moran‏ @lpearsemoran 9 Jan 2017
      Replying to @lpearsemoran @HPluckrose

      We should take people as they are, not how we would like them to be??

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Jan 2017
      Replying to @lpearsemoran

      That's exactly what I'm arguing, yes. If you find someone else's clothes offensive, put up with it.

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    5. Liam Moran‏ @lpearsemoran 9 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I don't think so Helen. I think moral relativity is the road to perdition. If someone turns up at my house wearing a pillowcase

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    6. Liam Moran‏ @lpearsemoran 9 Jan 2017
      Replying to @lpearsemoran @HPluckrose

      they can expect to get a bloody nose. However, I also think we should all be entitled to our prejudices

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Jan 2017
      Replying to @lpearsemoran

      You don't have to invite ppl in pillow cases into your house, no. And yes, prejudices are a right. Imposing on others is not.

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    8. Liam Moran‏ @lpearsemoran 9 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Ppl who wear pillowcases don't tend to wait for an invitation Not imposing certain prejudices is the essence of moral relativity

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Jan 2017
      Replying to @lpearsemoran

      Is it?Can't I have a consistent, universal moral framework which lets ppl do what they want as long as it doesn't harm others?

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    10. Liam Moran‏ @lpearsemoran 9 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      There's more to morality than Care/Harm (see Haidt)

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Jan 2017
      Replying to @lpearsemoran

      Yes, I know. But I don't have to find sacred what other ppl do.eg religion. I find liberal, secular democracy sacred.

      11:55 AM - 9 Jan 2017
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @lpearsemoran

          I do have the 'disgust' and 'loyalty to tradition' thing associated with the Right quite strongly but don't expect others to.

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        3. Liam Moran‏ @lpearsemoran 9 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          That tends to be typical of us western liberals. Not with most of the rest of the world though

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Jan 2017
          Replying to @lpearsemoran

          Yes, I know. I like western liberalism. I want to defend it.

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        5. Liam Moran‏ @lpearsemoran 9 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          And some of those beliefs and values impinge on freedom and liberties that liberals hold sacred, like gobshites with painted...

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Jan 2017
          Replying to @lpearsemoran

          Conservatives can impinge on their own freedoms and liberties (if there is a difference) but not on mine.

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        7. Liam Moran‏ @lpearsemoran 9 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          ?@HPluckrose Really? How you feel about the royal family. Ever HAD to watch the Queens speech (negative and positive liberty freedom to/from

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Jan 2017
          Replying to @lpearsemoran

          Fairly indifferent. We don't have as many freedoms as we should but I'm fairly happy & mostly want to conserve what we have.

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        9. Liam Moran‏ @lpearsemoran 9 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Conservative values impinge on all of us because we all (can't be sure... but) have some desire to conserve. Doubt you haven't

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        2. Liam Moran‏ @lpearsemoran 9 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          No not everything. But society, particularly large societies, do not work well w/out agreed sacrileges some o which aren't yours

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Jan 2017
          Replying to @lpearsemoran

          I don't know what you mean. How are they agreed but not shared? We set up liberal democracies by consensus?

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