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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @cek0001 @Secular_ExMu and

      OK. But I must insist: no modesty codes 4 women. No sacrificing our freedom

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @IonaItalia @cek0001 and

      at the altar of 'multiculturalism.' Women can't be the scapegoats here.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @IonaItalia @cek0001 and

      I will let others wear burkini on the beaches of free countries. But I'm not

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @IonaItalia @cek0001 and

      putting one on myself. Get that idea out of yr head.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @IonaItalia @cek0001 and

      Also, while there may not be actual slavery there, male guardianship in

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @IonaItalia @cek0001 and

      Saudi comes pretty damn close.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. CK‏ @cek0001 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @IonaItalia @Secular_ExMu and

      Let's park slavery. But no modesty standards at all? Anywhere. None?

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @cek0001 @IonaItalia and

      There can be norms to have privates covered but not gender-specif 'modesty'

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. CK‏ @cek0001 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @IonaItalia and

      Seems a reasonable approach until an 'all or nothing solution' is pressed

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Abdu‏ @Secular_ExMu 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @cek0001 @HPluckrose and

      there's no all or nothing just not targeting women and leaving them to choose

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jan 2017
      Replying to @Secular_ExMu @cek0001 @IonaItalia

      In a nutshell. If nudity or wetsuits become a norm for everyone on beaches & not coz of modesty, fine

      1:52 PM - 3 Jan 2017
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        2. CK‏ @cek0001 3 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Secular_ExMu @IonaItalia

          That seems ambitious & maybe not because possible in my lifetime Fallback - achieve broad alignments

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jan 2017
          Replying to @cek0001 @Secular_ExMu @IonaItalia

          Difference between principles & practicalities. Can oppose gendered modesty on principle.

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @cek0001 and

          We may have considerable success in undermining it or very little but its OK to keep saying its bad thing

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @cek0001 and

          We wldn't say, for eg, that it'll be hard to stop persecution of LGBT so compromise on how bad that is.

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @cek0001 and

          We can mandate choice & outlaw harassment or violence that denies it. After that,its abt critiquing ideas

          0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Secular_ExMu and

          as long as ppl are free to do other one. It is specifically unequal notions of modesty I'm concerned abt

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. Abdu‏ @Secular_ExMu 3 Jan 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @cek0001 @IonaItalia

          i agree because when unequal notions of modesty starts it only keeps increasing

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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