I feel pity for those pressured &exasperated by those making an identity related point
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I know desis in the UK who emigrated 2 flee theocracy in Pak. Now kids hv bcome devout.
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Very much a defiant identity thing. Young ppl do that. Most grow out of it.
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What's important to remember is that the garments are epiphenomena resting on a deep structure of belief.
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Islam is structured around controlling reproduction and keeping it strictly within stable family units.
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In that context, gender segregation and modesty are rational and consistent.
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What's required is not flipping out at surface phenomena but rather a root and branch critique of the beliefs.
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Agreed. Too few ppl see 'choice' & stop. Whole framework of gendered oppression underlying ideas of modesty
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Yes and no. Gendered oppression is not really the right lens either, especially for critiquing women's choices.
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Some cultures see western immodesty as a sign of moral poverty not freedom. Tough issue
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Not that tough. Immodesty in dress is a silly idea.
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Convergence by degrees & not leaps? For me we can now challenge extremes not everything
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I think we can. We're not all challenging the same thing.
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I may have confused. My point is to move to a modesty std as a norm - not just in West
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You want modesty codes?
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Jain monks live their lives completely naked & are treated w immense respect, even meeting
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state leaders & addressing parliament in the buff. And women shdnt wear skirts?
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