I'd say it also depends on whether the self-absorbed person is in the presence of suffering worth paying attention to.
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Replying to @Liggi
Absolutely. I was going to go on to say that the 'experience' of either by others might not register this distinction.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Liggi
The family of an egotistical or self-doubting person might be equally neglected or even more so by the latter.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Liggi
But from the perspective of condemnation, I think we need more charity & not to dismiss all self-absorbed people as egotists.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Liggi
I agree with everything so far but I also think we should ideally be forgiving of egotists, even though it'd hard to do.
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Replying to @Intrinsic29 @Liggi
They probably can't help it either when it comes down to it, no.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Liggi
Yeah, people's behavior is ultimately based on luck. They may be able to help it, but whether they want to or not is luck
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Replying to @Intrinsic29 @Liggi
Yep. However, going to the ultimate ends all conversations on behaviour, values, ethics etc & we still need those.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Liggi
I think the conversations can still be had while acknowledging luck's role. In fact I think it's more muddled if we don't
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Replying to @Intrinsic29 @Liggi
Its a bit like solipsism. I think we only have to acknowledge that everything ulimately down to luck once & then go on.
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Make sure everyone accepts this & then talk practically abt the value of various ethical standards.
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