There's a big difference between being an egotist and being self-absorbed. The latter is more forgiveable as it does not require arrogance.
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I think the conversations can still be had while acknowledging luck's role. In fact I think it's more muddled if we don't
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Its a bit like solipsism. I think we only have to acknowledge that everything ulimately down to luck once & then go on.
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Make sure everyone accepts this & then talk practically abt the value of various ethical standards.
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