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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Dec 2016

      There's a big difference between being an egotist and being self-absorbed. The latter is more forgiveable as it does not require arrogance.

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    2.  🦇 Liggi  🦇‏ @Liggi 30 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I'd say it also depends on whether the self-absorbed person is in the presence of suffering worth paying attention to.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Dec 2016
      Replying to @Liggi

      Absolutely. I was going to go on to say that the 'experience' of either by others might not register this distinction.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Liggi

      The family of an egotistical or self-doubting person might be equally neglected or even more so by the latter.

      8:45 PM - 30 Dec 2016
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Liggi

          But from the perspective of condemnation, I think we need more charity & not to dismiss all self-absorbed people as egotists.

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        3. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 30 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Liggi

          I agree with everything so far but I also think we should ideally be forgiving of egotists, even though it'd hard to do.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Dec 2016
          Replying to @Intrinsic29 @Liggi

          They probably can't help it either when it comes down to it, no.

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        5. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 30 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Liggi

          Yeah, people's behavior is ultimately based on luck. They may be able to help it, but whether they want to or not is luck

          3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Dec 2016
          Replying to @Intrinsic29 @Liggi

          Yep. However, going to the ultimate ends all conversations on behaviour, values, ethics etc & we still need those.

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        7. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 30 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Liggi

          I think the conversations can still be had while acknowledging luck's role. In fact I think it's more muddled if we don't

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Dec 2016
          Replying to @Intrinsic29 @Liggi

          Its a bit like solipsism. I think we only have to acknowledge that everything ulimately down to luck once & then go on.

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        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 @Liggi

          Make sure everyone accepts this & then talk practically abt the value of various ethical standards.

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