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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @DoneReasoning and

      It remains possible but no reason to think so & much reason to think 'self' is brain & dies w/ brain

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Dec 2016
      Replying to @Lockdown_Sol @DoneReasoning @EveKeneinan

      James Lindsay's Life in Light of Death looks at transcendence narratives & instinct to deny that we're mammals

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Dec 2016
      Replying to @Lockdown_Sol @DoneReasoning @EveKeneinan

      Humans. Warm-blooded vertebrates that have live young & produce milk.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن‏ @EveKeneinan 19 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @DoneReasoning

      Explain HOW there is an “instinct” to deny “we are warm-blooded, vertebrates that produce live young."

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن‏ @EveKeneinan 19 Dec 2016
      Replying to @EveKeneinan @HPluckrose @DoneReasoning

      First give citations. WHO, specifically, denies (1) humans are warm blooded (2) have spines (3) give live birth ?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن‏ @EveKeneinan 19 Dec 2016
      Replying to @EveKeneinan @HPluckrose @DoneReasoning

      I’ll be pretty amazed if you find someone who denies ANY of those 3 propositions, much less ALL 3.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن‏ @EveKeneinan 19 Dec 2016
      Replying to @EveKeneinan @HPluckrose @DoneReasoning

      And unless the tendency to deny ALL 3 is extremely widespread, it would be absurd to call it “an instinct."

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن‏ @EveKeneinan 19 Dec 2016
      Replying to @EveKeneinan @HPluckrose @DoneReasoning

      @iwpoe “An instinct to deny we are mammals” seems PATENTLY ABSURD as a claim about human beings.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Dec 2016
      Replying to @EveKeneinan @DoneReasoning @iwpoe

      Lol. Referring to psychological denial of animal status. 'Animals' referred to as tho humans aren't.

      12:50 PM - 19 Dec 2016
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        2. Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن‏ @EveKeneinan 19 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Who does this? Names, please. @HPluckrose @DoneReasoning @iwpoe

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Dec 2016
          Replying to @EveKeneinan @DoneReasoning @iwpoe

          Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن

          Eve Keneinan.https://twitter.com/EveKeneinan/status/805536401437720576 …

          Helen Pluckrose added,

          Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن @EveKeneinan
          Replying to @EveKeneinan
          Peter Singer: Same argument re: animals. They can “consent” by showing they find it pleasurable. @Daphne11111111
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        4. Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن‏ @EveKeneinan 19 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          So your claim is that, in using sense 1b, I am NECESSARILY denying sense 1a in valid? Really? @HPluckrose @DoneReasoning @iwpoepic.twitter.com/UjkBDVgO95

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Dec 2016
          Replying to @EveKeneinan @DoneReasoning @iwpoe

          No.

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        2. AxeGrrl  🎸‏ @Axe_Grrl 20 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @EveKeneinan and

          Every believer in my real world believes that we're _essentially_ diff from other animals.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن‏ @EveKeneinan 20 Dec 2016
          Replying to @Axe_Grrl @HPluckrose and

          (1) We are essentially different. (2) but “other animals” still makes sense.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن‏ @EveKeneinan 20 Dec 2016
          Replying to @EveKeneinan @Axe_Grrl and

          It’s not different than saying “other living beings” or “other physical being."

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن‏ @EveKeneinan 20 Dec 2016
          Replying to @EveKeneinan @Axe_Grrl and

          We do belong to the wider class “animal”, although “animal” can also be used to mean “not us.”

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن‏ @EveKeneinan 20 Dec 2016
          Replying to @EveKeneinan @Axe_Grrl and

          One definition of “animal” is “All animals except humans.” There’s a different sense in the definition part.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن‏ @EveKeneinan 20 Dec 2016
          Replying to @EveKeneinan @Axe_Grrl and

          They show up as 1a and 1b in the OED:pic.twitter.com/7wCVl74Ixf

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @EveKeneinan @DoneReasoning

          Wish for privacy for certain biological functions. Dualism. Great chain of being. Bestial being negative etc.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @EveKeneinan @DoneReasoning

          Ppl don't literally deny mammalian properties. They can't. They present animal status, carnality, biology as bad

          3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Eve Keneinan 𝛗 ☦️ن‏ @EveKeneinan 19 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @DoneReasoning

          So when you say “humans instinctively deny they are mammals” you really mean something entirely different?

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Dec 2016
          Replying to @EveKeneinan @DoneReasoning

          I have explained what I mean several times now. Disdaining our animal status, carnality, biology.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Dec 2016
          Replying to @Lockdown_Sol @DoneReasoning @EveKeneinan

          But that is how we say it, isn't it? Often? Stop behaving like an animal? Sex beast?

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. iwpoe‏ @iwpoe 19 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @EveKeneinan @DoneReasoning

          Whig history on stilts. Why not go sit down and read the documents that you think you know?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Dec 2016
          Replying to @Lockdown_Sol @DoneReasoning

          I've muted him. He can't have a civilised conversation.

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Dec 2016
          Replying to @Lockdown_Sol @DoneReasoning

          He was very rude & hostile a few days ago. Came out of nowhere, told me adults were talking, wrote Latin to intimidate me.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @DoneReasoning

          Called me names & objected to me studying Christianity without believing it in. Search our tags & see. Tried to calm him. No.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. End of conversation

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