@HPluckrose @Marvin_SuperDog @j_razor101 @JTheMagicRobot @sirtophamhat So fucking tired of the atheists that say "atheism _shouldn't_ be
Sure but it becomes easier to let the label 'atheist' go if its gets mixed up with all sorts of other things you don't believe in.
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Absolutely, but for anyone who mixes things together and does believe in all of them, I don't see the issue. As long as they
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don't claim to represent atheism or atheists in general.
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No, even the most anti-tribal ppl who argue against atheism+ don't say ppl can't have a range of interests. That's a good thing.
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I'm talking beyond 'range of interests', talking about ppl who are angry w atheists who say their atheism informs othr things
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Its natural to form ideologically motivated moral communities. Not angry when ppl do that but think resisting it much better.
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For me, as I said, as long as they make it clear they *don't* represent atheism-as-a-whole I don't have an issue.
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James Lindsay has been writing abt this. Ppl making ideologically motivated moral communities or quasi-religions out of atheism.
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Some atheists loathe 'atheist church'. Fine. That doesn't mean that the atheists for whom that resonates are 'damaging' atheism
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Doesn't matter if they do confuse the concept of what atheism is unless the identity 'atheist' is really important to you.
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It was to me but that wasn't healthy so the tribalism & denominations & ideology being connected to it making me ditch label is ok
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Absolutely. If you claim a label for yourself, be prepared to provide your lengthy footnote as to what that label means to you
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But we can still criticise the tribalism, sectarianism in atheism as we do in religion, politics etc. Can still say its bad.
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To me it's only bad if it reaches the aforementioned Silverman level, attempt at establishing an orthodoxy.
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To me, its bad to have tribes & sects generally. So I do resent a simply descriptor becoming something tribal but that's life.
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