Also how can you show that ideas are worthless unless you engage with them?
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Engaging with ideas can be done in many ways that don't involve inviting someone to give a speech.
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But we are talking specifically abt inviting speakers. Barry, u keep jumping abt avoiding the key issue.
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@barrydeutsch@kirbmarc We are talking abt no-platforming done for very specific reasons & it those reasons we criticise.
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Okay. But free speech includes the right NOT To say things if you don't want to. If a university decides they don't want to host
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We must defend their right to do so at the same time as arguing that universities shld embrace heterodox &controversial views
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I've always argued, from day one, that this 'no platform' movement is idiotic. It doesn't weaken bad ideas, it legitimizes them.
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What was just a niche philosophy or a small sub-set of people has become a 'persecuted outgroup'. Now when they scream and rage-
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-and spout off inane, non-factual, half-maddened drivel... people listen. Not because they're right, but because they know that-
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-by "you" not wanting them to be heard, what they have to say MUST have some legitimacy or value fighting the status quo.
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