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Well, that would shut down conversation too. You both need to assume the other is most concerned abt human safety
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That doesn't make it a non-issue. And assuming only 'statists' want this closes down opportunity to understand.
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But we're talking abt guns so we need to look at deaths caused by guns, not deaths caused by showers.
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@paulus0707 Its not moving goal posts to say that stats on death by firearm rather than showers are relevant to considering gun-control -
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@paulus0707 If we wanted to discuss the potential dangers of showers, we wouldn't look at death by firearm statistics either.
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That seems unlikely. Could you be biased and assigning uncharitable motives?
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Surely you're not claiming that it's a fact that ppl who want gun control want a fascist state?
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Isn't it more likely that ppl on both sides of the debate want to keep their loved ones safe & differ on how?
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I know there are ppl like this. I also know there are far-right wannabe militia. Most ppl on both sides are neither tho.
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I read that you're 4 times more likely to be killed with your own gun than use it to kill someone endangering you?
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I'd need to see the figures for guns used to protect and guns used to attack obviously.
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