Agreed. I think 1 problem is casual conversation often conflates free speech and the 1st Amendment, opening an easy/lazy retort.
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@catovitch I am forever being told 'freedom of speech' refers only to the 1st Amendment. Particularly annoying when you're not American.3 replies 4 retweets 7 likes -
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"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference"
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Replying to @PragmaticPete @HPluckrose
From Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Says nothing about only applying to governments.
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It is addressed to governments tho. It's governments who decide whether to opt into universal human rights or not.
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Sure, governments enforce it. But aren't they meant to protect those rights from infringement, regardless of who is infringing?
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Replying to @PragmaticPete
No. People decide who can & can't talk abt what in their private spaces.
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Being able to control your own private spaces doesn't seem incompatible with freedom of expression.
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Replying to @PragmaticPete
No. So the gov doesn't control it. Then private companies, institutions, individuals etc decide whether to uphold it or not.
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In some places its unreasonable to expect FoS. Eg, only talk abt science at science conferences. Child-appropriate in schools
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In others eg universities, social media, we can criticise the banning of certain views & argue they shld uphold free speech.
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