they would have to have 0 empathy for the person being killed which is immoral. It's never seem a rational argument to me.
I'm not in disagreement w you. I just don't think we can be objective. We have to agree premises, argue for them, work from there
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we have to identify a goal and what's the best way to achieve it. Doesn't have to be demonstrated logically.
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How else can it be demonstrated. Your argument needs to work logically or it has no credibility.
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