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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Derek Ganser-Tario 🌹‏ @DerekGT 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I don't think that's different at all. Imagine a town has 1 company. If that company censors or bans speakers, town is cut off

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @DerekGT

      Then have more companies. You can't make the only one that sets up platform the things you want it to.

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    3. Derek Ganser-Tario 🌹‏ @DerekGT 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      you just described a major problem the US has. We DON'T have more companies. Monopolies exist, and they're not going away.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @DerekGT

      We're talking about places people can express their views. When Twitter banned some ppl, other online companies set up.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @DerekGT

      We can criticise universities for not hosting radfems, conservatives, Islamists etc but we can't make them do it.

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    6. Derek Ganser-Tario 🌹‏ @DerekGT 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      why not? Criticising them will never change their mind, and if it really is important to hear perspectives and debate

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @DerekGT

      Because its authoritarian & they can't possibly host everything everyone thinks is important.

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    8. Derek Ganser-Tario 🌹‏ @DerekGT 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      as far as authoritarian goes, I guess it depends on what you think is accepable or necessary. We have to have some laws.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @DerekGT

      Yes, I am talking specifically abt deciding who private companies can & can't host on their shows/stages/social media etc.

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    10. Derek Ganser-Tario 🌹‏ @DerekGT 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I think somehow companies have more responsibility than people, because of their potential impact

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @DerekGT

      But they might not think so. And if we claim to respect diversity of ideas, we cannot insist they do it our way.

      10:05 AM - 10 Dec 2016
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        2. Derek Ganser-Tario 🌹‏ @DerekGT 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          at the end of the day, it's a decision as to how many rights we give companies. They already don't have same rights

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @DerekGT

          But we're talking abt freedom of expression now. I will advocate it consistently.

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        4. Derek Ganser-Tario 🌹‏ @DerekGT 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          and hate speech is still hate speech. I would argue we should be even stricter on that. Certain people should be banned for that

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @DerekGT

          And who decides what that is? Some think its atheists criticising Islam or one kind of feminist criticising another.

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        6. Derek Ganser-Tario 🌹‏ @DerekGT 10 Dec 2016
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          incitement to violence

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @DerekGT

          That's illegal, yes.

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        8. Derek Ganser-Tario 🌹‏ @DerekGT 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          exactly. Why? Freedom of expression? Less important than people being killed.

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        9. Derek Ganser-Tario 🌹‏ @DerekGT 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @DerekGT @HPluckrose

          that's all I was saying with the hate speech comment

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