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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @giles_fraser

      .@giles_fraser @holland_tom Is it fair to say secular liberalism imposes its views on others by insisting children have a broad education?

      3 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    2. Splog‏ @MisterSplog 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @giles_fraser @holland_tom

      secular liberalism is a meta-view, a view about views, namely that of anti-imposition

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Giles Fraser‏ @giles_fraser 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @MisterSplog @HPluckrose @holland_tom

      but it can still be imposed

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Splog‏ @MisterSplog 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @giles_fraser @HPluckrose @holland_tom

      the imposition of not having things imposed on you? Simply dreadful

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @MisterSplog @giles_fraser

      Nooo. Imposition of being prevented from imposing things on others. No-1 complains of too much freedom for selves

      2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
    6. Giles Fraser‏ @giles_fraser 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      freedom overrated moral virtue.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @giles_fraser

      You just make assertions.I'm sure you do want to decide your own faith & lifestyle & speech etc? Or shld others do it for you?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Giles Fraser‏ @giles_fraser 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      but it's not all about what I want, not all about individual desire.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @giles_fraser

      Course not.Our decisions are based on own needs, families, communities,principles, beliefs etc. Do u want right to make them?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Giles Fraser‏ @giles_fraser 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      but you want to pull apart communities with all your commitment to individual choice.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @giles_fraser

      No because my commitment to it doesn't make anyone else have to be! They can decide communal values are best.

      7:42 AM - 10 Dec 2016
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @giles_fraser

          Whereas enforced communal values do not allow for people to choose individual values.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Giles Fraser‏ @giles_fraser 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          You seem to think I prize individual choice in the way you do. I just don’t. For me, morally, we precedes I.

          3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Jerry Taylor  🇪🇺 🚴🏻‍♂️ #FBPE #LibDem‏ @JerryTaylor 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @giles_fraser

          i don't believe anybody would accuse such a strict authoritarian as you of valuing liberty or choice. @HPluckrose not stupid.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @JerryTaylor

          Its not the argument I'm making, no. But @giles_fraser is deluding himself if he doesn't recognise he chose his community.

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        6. Giles Fraser‏ @giles_fraser 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @JerryTaylor

          I didn't choose my parents, nor that im English, nor that I speak English, nor that I'm middle class and so on

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @giles_fraser @JerryTaylor

          Neither have I suggested u have.Being ridiculous.I'm saying u chose ur moral community from those available to u

          3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @giles_fraser

          As middle-class English ppl, we both had option to be any religion or none & take any political position. Both chose.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Giles Fraser‏ @giles_fraser 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          not true. We couldn't be Yazidi for instance.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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