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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Dec 2016

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted

      I think a trans ally can be someone who, on encountering a trans person, simply treats them like everyone else. https://twitter.com/UBlasphemist/status/807167387434946560 …

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      7 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    2. Paul Joseph‏ @PaulJoseph_80 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      @UBlasphemist But that requires us to apply cognitive dissonance to the fact we are, for example, talking to a bloke in a frock

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @PaulJoseph_80 @UBlasphemist

      Or you could just look at the evidence that gonads, chromosomes & brains don't always match?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @PaulJoseph_80 @UBlasphemist

      Don't have to, obv. Can go 'That person looks like a man but is wearing a dress!' *brain explodes*

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Paul Joseph‏ @PaulJoseph_80 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      My point is I would enter any such interaction with full intention and desire to act "normally" but there's a risk I would fail

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @PaulJoseph_80

      That's all you can do. People who berate those who fail & use a wrong pronoun or look momentarily confused hold back progress

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Paul Joseph‏ @PaulJoseph_80 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Also jokes about them in public life shud be fair game too. Afterall, we all know a bloke in a frock will always be a bit funny

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @PaulJoseph_80

      They shouldn't be punished. Other people can think you're a twat tho.

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    9. Paul Joseph‏ @PaulJoseph_80 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Of course not punished. But humour is blind. Funny is just funny.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @PaulJoseph_80

      Ppl will just think you're not that educated or don't get out much if u go 'huh huh. a bloke in a dress.'

      6:27 AM - 9 Dec 2016
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PaulJoseph_80

          But maybe not the ppl you share humour with. I don't care as long as you don't force trans ppl to listen to it.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Paul Joseph‏ @PaulJoseph_80 9 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          the humour I share ranges from the crude and juvenile to the...opposite

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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Dec 2016
          Replying to @UBlasphemist @PaulJoseph_80

          As I've said, it should not be banned.But sniggering at trans ppl, oinking at fat ppl, monkey noises at blk ppl

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @UBlasphemist @PaulJoseph_80

          etc do tend to give the impression of a puerile, naive & unkind humour which I am allowed to think poorly of.

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        2. Paul Joseph‏ @PaulJoseph_80 9 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Crude, juvenile jokes are only ever enjoyed by insular uneducated people?

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Dec 2016
          Replying to @PaulJoseph_80

          The 'huh huh a man in a frock' every time you see a trans woman does give that impression, yes.

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        4. Paul Joseph‏ @PaulJoseph_80 9 Dec 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Never mentioned saying "Huhuh man in a frock" everytime I see a trans. I said trans jokes shouldn't be off-limits in public life

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        5. Paul Joseph‏ @PaulJoseph_80 9 Dec 2016
          Replying to @PaulJoseph_80 @HPluckrose

          ...and that finding a man in a frock an amusing/incongruous sight doesn't make you uneducated and insular

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