I respect that you try & enjoy the dialogue. Even if you don't come to consencus. At least a different perspective was presented
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With the loons, no consensus is possible. I refer the term 'loons' for the utterly irrational and/or extreme.
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I'm optimistic. I think it's possible a seed can be planted. Even though they won't agree at that moment. Later experiences
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might make them doubt those convictions and reevaluate the conversations they had. Even if it's just one person. Still worth it.
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I think you are nuts to try, but I also enjoy the insanity, so guess that Venn diagram overlaps? :D
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Sone of us think you're both nuts to even try *and* enjoy the insanity. Keep at it

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