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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Chris‏ @earthbulb70 15 Nov 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @LabourGay

      I understand arguments/frustrations from all sides. It's the nuances that are difficult to express in 140 characters.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Nov 2016
      Replying to @earthbulb70 @LabourGay

      I can see that ppl who'd deny ppl rights coz race, gender, sexuality can be good ppl otherwise &well-intentioned 1/2

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Nov 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @earthbulb70 @LabourGay

      But there's not much nuance in the argument for doing so if you value human rights, equality & freedom.

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    4. Chris‏ @earthbulb70 15 Nov 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @LabourGay

      I don't disagree with those ideals necessarily. But, unfettered human rights, equality & freedom is unrealistic.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Nov 2016
      Replying to @earthbulb70

      Well, they're not unfettered. Equality is qualified as equal opportunities & rights for ppl of all races, genders & sexualities

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Chris‏ @earthbulb70 15 Nov 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Which I support in principle, but they do threw up difficulties in everyday interpretation and implementation. Equal pay?

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Nov 2016
      Replying to @earthbulb70

      We have equal pay laws. You cannot pay someone less because of their gender. 'Interpretation' doesn't change that.

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    8. Chris‏ @earthbulb70 15 Nov 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I agree, but discrimination on gender should be specifically proven, not demanding equal pay just because of shared job titles.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Nov 2016
      Replying to @earthbulb70

      Why 'but?' That was my point. There does not seem to be discrimination by gender.

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    10. Chris‏ @earthbulb70 15 Nov 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      OK. I withdraw the "but".

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Nov 2016
      Replying to @earthbulb70

      Pointing out where the principles of equality & freedom are being betrayed & promoting inequality & coercion upholds them.

      3:13 AM - 15 Nov 2016 from Islington, London
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Nov 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @earthbulb70

          Can I ask if you consider yourself Left, Right or centre?

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        3. Chris‏ @earthbulb70 15 Nov 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          What do you think?

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Nov 2016
          Replying to @earthbulb70

          I'm suspecting centre-right coz of the direction you're coming from even tho we agree & I consider myself centre-left.

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        5. Chris‏ @earthbulb70 15 Nov 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Hm, I would have said all three, however that doesn't help. Yours is a better assessment I think. And you don't even know me!

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Nov 2016
          Replying to @earthbulb70

          You're using the language of someone concerned with how left frames equality & freedom whilst being for the core principles.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Nov 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @earthbulb70

          Then you have a respect for social conservatives even if you don't agree with their ideas & see value in having overcome many.

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Nov 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @earthbulb70

          You sound like many centre-righties I respect but I shldn't label u. Centrist good if you see value in moderates on both sides.

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