@iDanSimpson 'Shat upon' does seem unlikely to mean 'expressed some reservations abt/have some points of disagreement with.'
Coz the assumption is there that someone requires an intervention to instill doubt re: an unsubstantiated truth claim.
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So its a bit uneven for when two people suspect they might have different opinions on strategy re: outcome of an election?
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Think that kind of conversation works best on comparing arguments. In this case, it cld be pragmatics vs principles. Not sure.
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Imo a Hillary vote is pragmatic but not merely so. Also very principled to directly oppose dangerous threat to U S.
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I am absolutely not discussing US politics. It gets me into trouble every time. :-p
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I understand. I thought it was relevant based on the original argument between them.
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Absolutely. I'm more interested in talking about talking tho! Researching book on this right now.
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Only to say that it doesn't seem to have to be pragmatic vs. principle if you're being pragmatic out of principle.
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I know what you mean. I got held up here for ages disagreeing with ppl who opposed them.
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I disagree with this assumption. What if, when James explained himself, I agreed with him? Would I want him to doubt?
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Could this conversation also have gone better if James didn't take a condescending approach?

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I kind of saw that the other way round. :-/ I thought SE in a scenario of political disagreement came across as condescending.
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Don't want to discuss your or James' attitudes, as such.I know you both to be sincere & well-motivated but discussion technique
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I think if one person speaking naturally abt his position & the other 'could you be wrong? & 'Sorry you feel that way'...1/2
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it turns into an intervention rather than a conversation on a subject that can be argued for or against with reasoned points.
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You've conflated my intentions based on the method I choose to engage.
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No, I really haven't. I am 100% positive that your intention is always to have a productive and respectful conversation.
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