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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Stephan Brun‏ @tibfulv 2 Nov 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @allyOfTheKurds

      I suppose, in that narrow case, I might find the Holocaust palatable. If all victims accepted it, then ...

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    2. Kurd Ally‏ @allyOfTheKurds 2 Nov 2016
      Replying to @tibfulv @HPluckrose

      What if all the victims were dead, but all brains still with signals thought it was OK? i need to get back to work...

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Nov 2016
      Replying to @allyOfTheKurds @tibfulv

      If people have thinking brains, they're not dead.

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    4. Kurd Ally‏ @allyOfTheKurds 2 Nov 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @tibfulv

      exactly. but the killing of the victims would have still been wrong

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Nov 2016
      Replying to @allyOfTheKurds @tibfulv

      Because our brains are thinking so. If no-1's brain thought something wrong, that aspect of morality wld not exist

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    6. Kurd Ally‏ @allyOfTheKurds 2 Nov 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @tibfulv

      if a psychopath kills everyone so that only his brain still had signals, then his mass murder would not be evil?

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    7. Stephan Brun‏ @tibfulv 2 Nov 2016
      Replying to @allyOfTheKurds @HPluckrose

      Indeed, that I could never agree with. Ethics can't depend on bystanders, because agents are bystanders.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Nov 2016
      Replying to @tibfulv @allyOfTheKurds

      Ppl who cared abt ethics would see the problem but if they didn't exist, neither would ethics.

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    9. Stephan Brun‏ @tibfulv 2 Nov 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @allyOfTheKurds

      Not necessarily. It looks attractive, but I think there would still be ethics. It would just be inactive.

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    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Nov 2016
      Replying to @tibfulv @allyOfTheKurds

      I think that might be human arrogance. To think our concepts are important outsise us.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Nov 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @tibfulv @allyOfTheKurds

      i'd agree that the same principles could be discovered again if another social species much like us evolved.

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        2. Stephan Brun‏ @tibfulv 2 Nov 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @allyOfTheKurds

          Yep. Luckily, it seems much of that work was done twenty years back. Virtue ethicists decided to try science.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Nov 2016
          Replying to @tibfulv @allyOfTheKurds

          Not with you. Talking abt consistent human principles that span the ages and are pan-cultural.

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        4. Stephan Brun‏ @tibfulv 2 Nov 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @allyOfTheKurds

          Yep. Helps to realise that as data, cultures are highly contradictory, and thus mostly useless.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Nov 2016
          Replying to @tibfulv @allyOfTheKurds

          Empathy, compassion, a sense of justice, a dislike of lies, jealousy, honour etc are basic human moral emotions.

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        6. Stephan Brun‏ @tibfulv 2 Nov 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @allyOfTheKurds

          Indeed, that is usable. ;)

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Nov 2016
          Replying to @tibfulv

          Well, this is what I am talking about. The basis of human morality which exists more simply in other social mammals.

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Nov 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @tibfulv

          The concepts won't exist without humans but cld exist again if social mammals with complex brains & language evolved again.

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        9. Stephan Brun‏ @tibfulv 2 Nov 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Exactly, lol.

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