If both have to take responsibility for their sex lives, then there is no need for abortion and we have equality in repro rights
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Yes! That and the child's needs are what make the case so hard to solve. Without them, it's easy.
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As usual, you went straight to the crux of the problem. I just wanted to make sure we agreed on the foundations first.
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I'm sick of the conversation, Ben. I don't have a gendered agenda. I'm just arguing for some humanity in this abstract coldness.
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I know you don't have an agenda, Helen. Neither do I. I find your inquiry into this tricky subject totally honest.
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The reason we might disagree is because it's a really tough one. Take a break and take care.

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I'd be surprised if we do on a personal level. And I think this is personal. Every case is different.
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Can't reduce everything to a formula. Sometimes you have to think how things affect people.
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For a personal perspective, definitely. The right thing to do depends on the individuals and their relationship.
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