Firstly, we have to accept that both sexes allowed to fail in their attempts at contraception. Otherwise, we are anti-abortion
Women can have abortions as easily as not so its all equal. Woman chooses so woman takes full responsibility. No problem.
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Equally, if money didn't exist, we could just consider the emotional costs & the financial ones wouldn't matter.
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I don't think we can discuss this rationally without emotions coz then there's no problem.
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Yes! That and the child's needs are what make the case so hard to solve. Without them, it's easy.
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As usual, you went straight to the crux of the problem. I just wanted to make sure we agreed on the foundations first.
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I'm sick of the conversation, Ben. I don't have a gendered agenda. I'm just arguing for some humanity in this abstract coldness.
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I know you don't have an agenda, Helen. Neither do I. I find your inquiry into this tricky subject totally honest.
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The reason we might disagree is because it's a really tough one. Take a break and take care.

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