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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Oct 2016

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      Not really. coz we don't criticise religious fundamentalists for being concerned with good education. We criticise what they think that is. https://twitter.com/omnissiuntone/status/790590259776069632 …

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    2. Joshua W‏ @omnissiuntone 24 Oct 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      My overwhelming reaction when atheist parents want to pull their kids out of nativity or assembly is 'Get a life'

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Oct 2016
      Replying to @omnissiuntone

      That doesn't really say anything.

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    4. Joshua W‏ @omnissiuntone 24 Oct 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I think religions are false, but don't think it's necessary or healthy to insulate chn from conflicting views.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Oct 2016
      Replying to @omnissiuntone

      .@omnissiuntone Also age is relevant. My daughter 6 when told God flooded the world killing everyone, still existed & was watching her.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Oct 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      .@omnissiuntone Asked school to make sure stories were age-appropriate & to try to avoid presenting genocide as a good thing.

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    7. Joshua W‏ @omnissiuntone 24 Oct 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      And yet most kids aren't traumatised by the story of Noah's ark.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Oct 2016
      Replying to @omnissiuntone

      Its almost more worrying if kids aren't traumatised by Noah's Ark. Accepting genocide is OK if God's will? Taught in schools?

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        1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          .@omnissiuntone Its not the kids who don't take teaching at school seriously that we should judge its effect by. Its the ones who do.

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        2. (Was A) Grumpy Sloth‏ @Grumpy_P_Sloth 24 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @omnissiuntone

          TBF, kids love violence and death in stories. Just look at most nursery rhymes, stories and stuff by Roald Dahl.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Oct 2016
          Replying to @Grumpy_P_Sloth @omnissiuntone

          Yes. Headmistress said she'd have to learn abt Tudors. She loved it. 1/2

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Grumpy_P_Sloth @omnissiuntone

          The difference was that she wasn't told that Mary Tudor was still alive & watching everything she did.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Grumpy_P_Sloth @omnissiuntone

          We only kept her out for half a year. The GP referred her to a counsellor for the panic attacks & insomnia.

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Grumpy_P_Sloth @omnissiuntone

          We showed her how many gods & weird beliefs there were &she stopped believing. Then she wasn't scared anymore

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Grumpy_P_Sloth @omnissiuntone

          This when I met others whose kids also frightened by violent stories presented as true & began opposing it.

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Grumpy_P_Sloth @omnissiuntone

          She loves RE now & this needn't have happened if they'd made it age appropriate & not presented it as true.

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        9. (Was A) Grumpy Sloth‏ @Grumpy_P_Sloth 24 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @omnissiuntone

          Indeed. Even when I was a kid & a believer, I was always told God was real but the stories were just myths.

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        2. Joshua W‏ @omnissiuntone 24 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Not sure that's the message young chn internalise. OT ethics dodgy for sure, but usually presented in benign folksy way.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Oct 2016
          Replying to @omnissiuntone

          How? How do you present genocide as benign? You can distract some kids from it but others will still imagine the drowning.

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        4. Jan Skelton‏ @jan_skelton 24 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @omnissiuntone

          My son was also traumatised by the Noah's Ark story. I was simultaneously angry with the school and proud of him.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Oct 2016
          Replying to @jan_skelton @omnissiuntone

          I've met many parents whose kids have been now.

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