"Works for everyone" = pragmatic but you'd still have to have principles of equality & freedom to make the aim "for everyone"
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Replying to @HPluckrose @LunaSparks34
Other aims to make society work have been pragmatic & effective but included things like slavery & patriarchy so can't support
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Replying to @HPluckrose @LunaSparks34
But I see that things needing to work for everybody is central to ur pragmatism even if u don't consider this a principle.
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A solution that imposes unacceptable costs on or extracts unacceptable rent from others will fail the tests of time & experience
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Is that why the most thriving civilisations and empires have fallen tho?
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Very often, yes, political decay is at the root of decline and fall.
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Replying to @LunaSparks34
Hmm. Often its because other oppressive powers have grown more powerful.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @LunaSparks34
I hope the liberal, pluralistic, secular ideal works coz I think its best for everyone but WEIRD societies are new.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @LunaSparks34
Our individualism & lack of unity might destroy us.Its a bit of an experiment.
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An experiment it is. With no guarantee of success. But a worthy, warranted project nevertheless.
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We agree there. That's what I meant here. I hope humanity is ready for it & will see it makes sense.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/787374894879309824 …
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I do think we converge on these points. And I'm with you: hopefully we're up for it! Solidarity.
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