In a terrific twist of fate, I just read this piece--captures my position almost exactly. http://buff.ly/2epQk2o
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Very close to mine too! Had discussion much like this.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/773724095913549824 …
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In this sense, ppl wld be agreeing coz it works for everyone even tho the principles they live by might be different.
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"Works for everyone" = pragmatic but you'd still have to have principles of equality & freedom to make the aim "for everyone"
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Other aims to make society work have been pragmatic & effective but included things like slavery & patriarchy so can't support
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But I see that things needing to work for everybody is central to ur pragmatism even if u don't consider this a principle.
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A solution that imposes unacceptable costs on or extracts unacceptable rent from others will fail the tests of time & experience
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Is that why the most thriving civilisations and empires have fallen tho?
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Very often, yes, political decay is at the root of decline and fall.
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Hmm. Often its because other oppressive powers have grown more powerful.
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I hope the liberal, pluralistic, secular ideal works coz I think its best for everyone but WEIRD societies are new.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @LunaSparks34
Our individualism & lack of unity might destroy us.Its a bit of an experiment.
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Though some conservatives will tell us we're reproducing the humanism & decadence that destroyed Rome. Not sure it did.
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