Am I using 'principles' in the same sense as you here?https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/752183302421872640 …
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Is it that we are advocating roughly the same thing but I describe this as a principle & you as abandoning them?
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt
In a terrific twist of fate, I just read this piece--captures my position almost exactly. http://buff.ly/2epQk2o
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Very close to mine too! Had discussion much like this.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/773724095913549824 …
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Replying to @HPluckrose @LunaSparks34
In this sense, ppl wld be agreeing coz it works for everyone even tho the principles they live by might be different.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @LunaSparks34
"Works for everyone" = pragmatic but you'd still have to have principles of equality & freedom to make the aim "for everyone"
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Perhaps all that must be accepted is the fact of pluralism, of variance in our own & others tastes, preferences, behaviors, etc.
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I think all societies have recognised this as a fact. They just vary on the extent to which they allow it.
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But does experience not suggest that secular liberalism tends to work better than oppression, that it's a good benchmark?
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Replying to @LunaSparks34
Work in what sense? I argue for it cos I think it gives more ppl more rights & freedoms. Don't know if it will survive.
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It produces low birthrates, is positive abt immigration. Vulnerable to being overtaken by more religious conservative
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