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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Oct 2016

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted nevynxxx

      Maybe this is the way to look at it? Do we want principled pragmatism or pragmatic principles? Maybe its what we think should lead?https://twitter.com/nevynxxx/status/786920492917788672 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      nevynxxx @nevynxxx
      Replying to @HPluckrose
      Principaled pragmatism. Aiming for the ideal, but accepting that we get there through small achievable steps.
      2 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Oct 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I am probably someone who tries to be pragmatic about my principles whilst others try to be principled in their pragmatism. 1/2

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Oct 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I think we need both kinds of people, tbh, & we need one more than the other in different circumstances.They do both need to have both, 2/2

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Oct 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      But I also observe that many disagreements over principles vs pragmatism comes down to how ppl are defining those things. Which is tedious.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 14 Oct 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Yeah, this is usually the case with me. I only take issue with what I call epistemic pragmatism. When truth is sacrificed.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 14 Oct 2016
      Replying to @Intrinsic29 @HPluckrose

      And even then, my opposition is nuanced. e.g. I think Maajid's approach is the bad kind of pragmatism, but prob necessary.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Oct 2016
      Replying to @Intrinsic29

      I think it would be if he made truth claims rather than promoting plurality & not claiming any of them to be true.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 14 Oct 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      He propagates interpretations based on the behavior he expects them to cause and he inherently promotes faith based belief.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Oct 2016
      Replying to @Intrinsic29

      Yes but he's open abt doing the former so I have much more respect for him than ppl insisting that was what texts really mean.

      7:18 AM - 14 Oct 2016 from Paddington, London
      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29

          The latter is a problem but, yes, this is where pragmatism comes in. He can do more good from this position that atheists can't

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 14 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Yeah, as long as our goals align, it's a good thing. But self-correction can be hard for this type of organization.

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        4. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 14 Oct 2016
          Replying to @Intrinsic29 @HPluckrose

          I'm optimistic though.

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        1. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 14 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Me too and I've been pretty respectful to him too while pressing him a little here and there.

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