Now have ppl thinking I'm asking what level of crudity is acceptable in such convos. No. That's up to group. Are you advocating a crime?
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I see what you see, and commented on it yesterday. &Happy to see plenty of men stating what I expect - DT's comments NOT normal.
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while I understand that men will talk crudely amongst themselves, I think most of them realize it's unacceptable.
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The crudest men that I know, will not talk in such a manner as to say it's acceptable to force themselves on women.
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That. That is what I believe. I've heard a fair amount from unguarded men, I'm not naive. Boast of force is different.
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And talking abt when u know they will hear it 2 & it will make them feel sick - DT on wanting 2 date Ivanka or Tiffany's tits.
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Its whether it affects others, isn't it?
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exactly
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I dont follow many who identify as feminists. It doesnt mean what it used to mean. They tend to say silly things.
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Talking abt, no. But talking 2 s.o. graphically abt fantasy sex w/them or abt their body can be creepy if they don't want that.
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These are probably the same people who think having sex while both parties were blackout drunk counts as rape.
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