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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Oct 2016
      Replying to @Intrinsic29

      Yes.

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    2. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 4 Oct 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I read through it all. You seem to have said everything I'd say and the debate seems to have ended for the most part.

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    3. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 4 Oct 2016
      Replying to @Intrinsic29 @HPluckrose

      One tiny caveat, though: I do think Islam is a little worse intrinsically than Christianity, because of differences bt prophets.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Oct 2016
      Replying to @Intrinsic29

      Superficial. Muhammad was meek before he had power too. Once Christianity had it on Christ's behalf...

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    5. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 4 Oct 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      But religious people don't see their prophet as a mortal who's subject to change once powerful. The prophet's example matters.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Oct 2016
      Replying to @Intrinsic29

      Yes but Muslims quote all the lovely stuff. Met so many who go starry-eyed over his compassion and justice.

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    7. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 4 Oct 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Yeah, I'm not saying this is impossible, but it's much harder knowing his likely historical example and the brutality of hadith.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Oct 2016
      Replying to @Intrinsic29

      I don't think it is, given history of Christianity & Islam. Inspired exactly same bloodshed.

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    9. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 4 Oct 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I'm not sure if this is true and I think there's a strong cognitive bias to equate intractably complex values like this.

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    10. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 4 Oct 2016
      Replying to @Intrinsic29 @HPluckrose

      The prior odds that two given intractably complex amounts would be exactly the same are very very low.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Oct 2016
      Replying to @Intrinsic29

      Really not that complex. The idea that we don't kill, mutilate & maim ppl for not believing the right thing is very new.

      3:33 PM - 4 Oct 2016 from Enfield, London
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29

          Islam was a bit better for that. Cld pay higher taxes & still be Christian or Jew but still cldn't challenge Islam in any way.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29

          Xtianity bit better for forgiving blasphemy if recanted. Less of the honour thing. But still much killing for offending relig.

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        4. Diane Bruce‏ @Dianora_1 4 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29

          Even atheists in the western world have been acculturated with Xtian hence blind spot.

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        1. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 4 Oct 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          The harmfulness of a religion is a complex value to define and populate though.

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