Not to people who don't want to hear your conversation. Then its just noise.https://twitter.com/iamhamesh/status/781459106448175104 …
They are borne. Not suggesting arresting ppl for it. Making an argument that its inconsiderate.
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The campaign exists cos currently there's an expectation that we don't talk to each other. I'm saying this is a good thing.
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Some ppl will be inconvenienced by noise, others by an expectation not to be quiet. I think latter is better.
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*to be quiet.
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I think this largely coz of idea that doing what you want is fine until it impacts other people.
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That’s not quite correct. You’re getting at a core liberal idea, yes; but impact has to be on *rights*, not just sensibilities.
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No, I think its OK to argue against anti-social behaviour too. Intrusive, inconsiderate behavious cos of its impact.
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What we can't do is ban it. If I can't focus on my book coz of talking, I cld read it out loud to drown it out.
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I won't coz I suspect person on other side wants to focus on own book. I'll put on white noise, change carriage or give up
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Nobody says that’s what you’re suggesting. My arg: it’s not just not inconsiderate, tolerating it is vital to a liberal society.
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Tolerating, yes. That wld be not trying to ban it. Can still argue that its more considerate to be quiet in confined space.
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Toleration goes further than not advocating legal consequences, I’m afraid. :)
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If tolerating things requires me to pretend to think all behaviours equally considerate, I am not tolerant.
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You’re implicitly equating *any* chatting with being intrusive. That cannot be helpful…
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Helpful to what? I'd prefer ppl not to chat to me & to keep their own chat to a level that I can still read.
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They don't have to & because I recognise this, I put on white noise or change carriage rather than ask them to.
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This does not prevent me from arguing for quiet in confined spaces on Twitter. Humorously usually.
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