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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Aug 2016
      Replying to @iain_mk2 @MaajidNawaz

      Religions have reformed constantly throughout history. They haven't ended yet. Maybe that will change soon.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. M. Katoen‏ @m_katoen 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @iain_mk2 @MaajidNawaz

      How has islam reformed? Examples?

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @m_katoen @iain_mk2

      pic.twitter.com/ICbj9qBWrO

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    4. M. Katoen‏ @m_katoen 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @iain_mk2 @MaajidNawaz

      Thanks! Good argument Problem here in Brussels is that diversity is diminishing due to salafist influence

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    5. i.e.‏ @iain_mk2 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @m_katoen

      It can obviously be sectarianised, but whether it reformable to a point non-Muslims can accept? Unlikely @HPluckrose @MaajidNawaz

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    6. i.e.‏ @iain_mk2 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @iain_mk2 @m_katoen

      The key term is "reform" not "interpret". Reform implies change from negative ways. @HPluckrose @MaajidNawaz

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @iain_mk2

      .@iain_mk2 @m_katoen @MaajidNawaz The difference between reforming & liberal Muslims is that reformers honestly acknowledge the bad bits.

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    8. i.e.‏ @iain_mk2 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Maajid and Usama didn't do too well with that in regards to Muhammad in this thread. They cherry pick. @m_katoen @MaajidNawaz

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @iain_mk2 @m_katoen @MaajidNawaz

      Yes. Can't help it really. Don't see why picking good bits & getting rid of nasty bits is a bad thing?

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    10. Ana‏ @TellDramaUK 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @iain_mk2 @m_katoen

      They aren't getting rid of anything. They applying spin and interpretation which mainstream Muslims reject.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @TellDramaUK @iain_mk2 @m_katoen

      That's what religious people do. They think the god is real & perfect & relig must be reformed to fit.

      7:54 AM - 23 Sep 2016 from Bromley, London
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        2. i.e.‏ @iain_mk2 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Then they're not reformers, they just another sect. @TellDramaUK @m_katoen

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @iain_mk2 @TellDramaUK @m_katoen

          Into a semantic issue now then.

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        4. i.e.‏ @iain_mk2 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Muhammad as an exemplar is a semantic issue? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ @TellDramaUK @m_katoen

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @iain_mk2 @TellDramaUK @m_katoen

          No.Whether adapting a religion to make it compatible with liberal values is reform or making another a sect

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. i.e.‏ @iain_mk2 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Differing interpretation is definitely not reform if it ignores the principles that make it need reform. @TellDramaUK @m_katoen

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @iain_mk2 @TellDramaUK @m_katoen

          No, it needs to get rid of principles incompatible with liberal, secular democracy. I think it does.

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        8. i.e.‏ @iain_mk2 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          You think that Muhammad as an exemplar is compatible with liberal, secular democracy? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ @TellDramaUK @m_katoen

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        2. Ana‏ @TellDramaUK 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @iain_mk2 @m_katoen

          I support liberal Muslims when deserved and criticise when deserved. Quilliam does not get a free pass.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @TellDramaUK @iain_mk2 @m_katoen

          Absolutely. If they do something against human rights, equality & freedom, I will criticise them too.

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        4. Ana‏ @TellDramaUK 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @iain_mk2 @m_katoen

          I have to finish work now but I have many reasons to criticise Quilliam. I have supported them too.

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