Unless that was addressed to you whilst you were arguing that people shld use both approaches.
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Morally bad, I mean. I see the problem epistemologically.
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I'm happy they're tackling bad bits, but does that mean we give them a pass on *their* bad bits?
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Cool. I guess myself and
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Not too concerned abt personal arguments.Maajid gets picked at & undermined from all angles
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Maajid says no idea is above scrutiny. I agree with that. Hence I scrutinise Quilliam ideas.
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I've argued Y I think support or leaving-alone more helpful here: http://helensatheistblogs.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/why-atheists-should-support-muslim.html …
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please add a paragraph to this blog explaining what happens to non-Muslims 1/
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They aren't getting rid of anything. They applying spin and interpretation which mainstream Muslims reject.
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That's what religious people do. They think the god is real & perfect & relig must be reformed to fit.
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Then they're not reformers, they just another sect.
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Into a semantic issue now then.
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Muhammad as an exemplar is a semantic issue? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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No.Whether adapting a religion to make it compatible with liberal values is reform or making another a sect
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Differing interpretation is definitely not reform if it ignores the principles that make it need reform.
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No, it needs to get rid of principles incompatible with liberal, secular democracy. I think it does.
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It's what most xtians do today + keep religion in private space
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Yes. Unfortunately its in government & schools today in UK & still holding back LGBT & gender equality.
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But its def a huge step in the right direction of applying your religion to own life & leaving others alone
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