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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Aug 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @iain_mk2 @MaajidNawaz

      Unless that was addressed to you whilst you were arguing that people shld use both approaches.

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    2. i.e.‏ @iain_mk2 3 Aug 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I'm not dredging up every fallacious & erroneous reply I've had over 2 networks, to defend a position I don't hold. @MaajidNawaz

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Aug 2016
      Replying to @iain_mk2 @MaajidNawaz

      Religions have reformed constantly throughout history. They haven't ended yet. Maybe that will change soon.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. M. Katoen‏ @m_katoen 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @iain_mk2 @MaajidNawaz

      How has islam reformed? Examples?

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @m_katoen @iain_mk2

      pic.twitter.com/ICbj9qBWrO

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    6. M. Katoen‏ @m_katoen 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose @iain_mk2 @MaajidNawaz

      Thanks! Good argument Problem here in Brussels is that diversity is diminishing due to salafist influence

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    7. i.e.‏ @iain_mk2 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @m_katoen

      It can obviously be sectarianised, but whether it reformable to a point non-Muslims can accept? Unlikely @HPluckrose @MaajidNawaz

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    8. i.e.‏ @iain_mk2 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @iain_mk2 @m_katoen

      The key term is "reform" not "interpret". Reform implies change from negative ways. @HPluckrose @MaajidNawaz

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @iain_mk2

      .@iain_mk2 @m_katoen @MaajidNawaz The difference between reforming & liberal Muslims is that reformers honestly acknowledge the bad bits.

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    10. i.e.‏ @iain_mk2 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Maajid and Usama didn't do too well with that in regards to Muhammad in this thread. They cherry pick. @m_katoen @MaajidNawaz

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
      Replying to @iain_mk2 @m_katoen @MaajidNawaz

      Yes. Can't help it really. Don't see why picking good bits & getting rid of nasty bits is a bad thing?

      6:54 AM - 23 Sep 2016 from Bromley, London
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @iain_mk2 and

          Morally bad, I mean. I see the problem epistemologically.

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        3. i.e.‏ @iain_mk2 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I'm happy they're tackling bad bits, but does that mean we give them a pass on *their* bad bits? @m_katoen @MaajidNawaz

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @iain_mk2 @m_katoen @MaajidNawaz

          No.

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        5. i.e.‏ @iain_mk2 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Cool. I guess myself and @REnlightenment will receive apologies from Maajid soon then ;-) @m_katoen @MaajidNawaz

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @iain_mk2 @REnlightenment and

          Not too concerned abt personal arguments.Maajid gets picked at & undermined from all angles

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        7. Re-Enlightenment‏ @REnlightenment 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Maajid says no idea is above scrutiny. I agree with that. Hence I scrutinise Quilliam ideas. @HPluckrose @iain_mk2 @m_katoen @MaajidNawaz

          4 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @REnlightenment @iain_mk2 and

          I've argued Y I think support or leaving-alone more helpful here: http://helensatheistblogs.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/why-atheists-should-support-muslim.html …

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Brexit please‏ @kew_van 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @REnlightenment and

          please add a paragraph to this blog explaining what happens to non-Muslims 1/

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        2. Ana‏ @TellDramaUK 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @iain_mk2 @m_katoen

          They aren't getting rid of anything. They applying spin and interpretation which mainstream Muslims reject.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @TellDramaUK @iain_mk2 @m_katoen

          That's what religious people do. They think the god is real & perfect & relig must be reformed to fit.

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        4. i.e.‏ @iain_mk2 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Then they're not reformers, they just another sect. @TellDramaUK @m_katoen

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @iain_mk2 @TellDramaUK @m_katoen

          Into a semantic issue now then.

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        6. i.e.‏ @iain_mk2 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Muhammad as an exemplar is a semantic issue? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ @TellDramaUK @m_katoen

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @iain_mk2 @TellDramaUK @m_katoen

          No.Whether adapting a religion to make it compatible with liberal values is reform or making another a sect

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. i.e.‏ @iain_mk2 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Differing interpretation is definitely not reform if it ignores the principles that make it need reform. @TellDramaUK @m_katoen

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @iain_mk2 @TellDramaUK @m_katoen

          No, it needs to get rid of principles incompatible with liberal, secular democracy. I think it does.

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        2. M. Katoen‏ @m_katoen 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @iain_mk2 @MaajidNawaz

          It's what most xtians do today + keep religion in private space

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @m_katoen @iain_mk2 @MaajidNawaz

          Yes. Unfortunately its in government & schools today in UK & still holding back LGBT & gender equality.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2016
          Replying to @HPluckrose @m_katoen and

          But its def a huge step in the right direction of applying your religion to own life & leaving others alone

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