I have yet another person demanding that I listen to them arguing (badly) against things I never said or admit I don't accept criticism. If you want someone to listen to your disagreement or criticism of their ideas, make sure it is among the best being offered them.
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It's just not a fair accusation. We're trying to get these conversations going and get academics in the top of these fields to talk to us. Usually they won't but when we get anyone reasonably knowledgeable with a serious argument, we'll engage with them.
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I will give you the point that I am over generalizing, as you have all certainly engaged with people in the field. Though nearly all "White folks", whereas, there is a wealth of Black academics who speak on the topic. Either they have not responded, or you have not offered.
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You're making this up as you go along, aren't you? First it was that we ignore good criticisms & highlight the bad. Now it's that we go by race. On the occasion we had a talk about intersectionality, we invited anyone who worked in it. No-one came. Now, anyone can say anything
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No. The point is two fold. You're selective in who you are engaging with "officially", initially I was speaking about Twitter, as that seemed to be what you were addressing. Conceding that you have spoken with academics, but "what" academics is a legitimate additional question.
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I'll engage a serious criticism when I hear one. I've been waiting a few weeks. And I don't particularly care what some dude on Twitter or a podcast considers a serious criticism.
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They do have to have read our write up of what we were actually doing, yes, and ideally some of the papers. There's no point arguing with people who are trying to argue against things we didn't do or claim.
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Or who are completely uninformed. "Maybe it's the good parts of Mein Kampf." Maybe go read the effing thing before saying something this stupid and lazy, in public. We told you which chapter it is. Takes about 20 minutes.
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Mein Kampf truly is an awfully written book. Not only in subject matter, but the meandering, disorganized style suggests a badly disorganized mind.
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Yes, we know. It was painful.
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I can only imagine. The real struggle in Mein Kampf is slogging through the prose. I assume you all had to comb through it for adequate passages.
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I was referring to those engaged with online, specifically (from what I have read). But with regards to the talk(s), prof. Boghossian was equivocal in saying that people were there to "listen" to those talking, in regards to videos posted.
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No. We invited all four of them individually. When they ignored or refused, we issued a general invitation to academics in the field. You'll be thinking of the heckler Peter had to remind that she was not part of the conversation on another occasion.
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She did turn out to be a gender scholar, actually, but he had no idea who she was at the time and if she'd wanted to be involved she could have gone through the right channels to be included.
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And I immediately think of the Right's, "ID to vote" and "that shouldn't be too much to ask". I don't think there is an easy solution to know "what someone knows" or how valid their claims are on the face of things, difficult question, though I do think *charity* is needed.
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