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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 25

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted ITV News

      I understand the instinct to say "You made your bed. Lie in it." But people are forgetting the children. They're British. They couldn't help being taken out of Britain by mothers who must be imprisoned for terrorism & child endangerment. The kids did not do this. Bring them home.https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1055543204223815681 …

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      ITV NewsVerified account @itvnews
      The one-time women of so-called Islamic State who travelled to Syria from Britain to join the terror organisation have spoken to ITV News, issuing pleas to the UK Government to allow them and their children to return home https://bit.ly/2CDL1H2  pic.twitter.com/bdp1hsHMpl
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    2. Dr. T Rodriguez, ⱂⰞⰴ‏ @DrTandtheLg Oct 26
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      At some point the bill comes due. And I see no reason the British people should be left picking up the tab, not even for the children. Gonna disagree with you on this one, but respect your kind heart and charitable attitude. :)

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 26
      Replying to @DrTandtheLg

      Its British children I am talking about tho. They don't become less British because they are brown or black or because their parents have a certain religious belief.

      12:53 AM - 26 Oct 2018
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        2. Dr. T Rodriguez, ⱂⰞⰴ‏ @DrTandtheLg Oct 26
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Am I understanding this correctly that these children were removed from the country when the mothers left?

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 26
          Replying to @DrTandtheLg

          Yes. They had no right to take their children into prohibited organisations and war zones. Both are illegal.

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        4. Dr. T Rodriguez, ⱂⰞⰴ‏ @DrTandtheLg Oct 26
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I'll agree with that. To me, though, that's a sign that you're revoking your own citizenship and that of your child as well. I'm fairly certain it would work that way here. But Britains are under an obligation to follow their own laws, which matters most here.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 26
          Replying to @DrTandtheLg

          Sure. In the same way that killing a child is a sign that you're revoking their right to life. We don't generally let parents do that tho. Coz the kids have rights too. I'm not saying to save the kids for the mothers sake. I'm saying to save them for their own.

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 26
          Replying to @HPluckrose @DrTandtheLg

          Some parents have sold their own children into paedophile rings. The question isn't whether or not they meant to do that. Obviously, they did. The question is whether they have the right to do that or if the children should be taken to a place of safety & the parents locked up.

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        7. Dr. T Rodriguez, ⱂⰞⰴ‏ @DrTandtheLg Oct 26
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I guess that depends on how charitable the British people are willing to be and if it's legal. But jail the mothers? Definitely...in Syria. I see no reason y'all should foot that bill in addition to that of the children, who alone will require years of care to manage the damage

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 26
          Replying to @DrTandtheLg

          If they are British, we need to take responsibility for them. We wouldn't look very kindly on other countries saying of its citizen "You went to the UK to commit crimes. We wash our hands of you. You can stay there." No, they can't. You need to take them back & deal with them.

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