At some point the bill comes due. And I see no reason the British people should be left picking up the tab, not even for the children. Gonna disagree with you on this one, but respect your kind heart and charitable attitude. :)
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Its British children I am talking about tho. They don't become less British because they are brown or black or because their parents have a certain religious belief.
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Am I understanding this correctly that these children were removed from the country when the mothers left?
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Yes. They had no right to take their children into prohibited organisations and war zones. Both are illegal.
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I'll agree with that. To me, though, that's a sign that you're revoking your own citizenship and that of your child as well. I'm fairly certain it would work that way here. But Britains are under an obligation to follow their own laws, which matters most here.
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Sure. In the same way that killing a child is a sign that you're revoking their right to life. We don't generally let parents do that tho. Coz the kids have rights too. I'm not saying to save the kids for the mothers sake. I'm saying to save them for their own.
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Some parents have sold their own children into paedophile rings. The question isn't whether or not they meant to do that. Obviously, they did. The question is whether they have the right to do that or if the children should be taken to a place of safety & the parents locked up.
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I guess that depends on how charitable the British people are willing to be and if it's legal. But jail the mothers? Definitely...in Syria. I see no reason y'all should foot that bill in addition to that of the children, who alone will require years of care to manage the damage
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Did you go to bed at all Helen?
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Not yet. Soon.
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...it's 0719 in London. I'm telling on you.
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that’s it. I want sleep reports now
and you’re going
to the clinic 

if I don’t see rapid improvement. 



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I am going to get on it from Monday.
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Do their children have a greater moral claim on Britain than the children who have been terrorised & displaced by these very people? How's this for an idea: For every one of them that are shuned a Yazidi or Christian refugee gets accepted?
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Yes. They are British. We do not blame children for the actions of their parents. If your parents had gone extremist loon and taken you off to join a death cult, wouldn't you want your country to put your rights as a citizen above your parents' allegiances and bring you home?
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As I get older I realise that what I want matters not a fig. And my implicit question still stands, why should these "cubs of the caliphate" be preferred over those who suffered that these may prosper. And "British" - in what sense?
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In the same sense as me. Born here.
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I do not believe that is a sufficient criterion in today's world
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Then I could have been taken out of my own countries values and subjected to a barbaric and evil one and so could you. Its pure luck that our parents didn't decide that for us. If a country doesn't stand for its citizens want worth does it have?
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Hmm, not really pure luck is it? The chances of anyone I know taking their kids to Syria is rather small.
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Nobody chooses who they are born to.
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