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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 25

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted swiss neutrality

    Does this mean that the countries in yellow were found to have succeeded in being colour blind while everyone else has bias one way or another? I am skeptical of it, if so. I'd expect the UK to be on the border of yellow and pink. I don't think it can mean that.https://twitter.com/ashindestad/status/1055011731506937858 …

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    swiss neutrality @ashindestad
    It's a good thing that I have no interest in visiting any of the countries coloured in red/pink. pic.twitter.com/8x8AK4B9yF
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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 25

        No, it doesn't mean that so it is a weird way to set it out. It looks like it should mean that yellow was neutral - colourblind - & those to the left biased towards darker skinned people and those on the right biased against them but it doesn't. There wasn't a zero score anywhere

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 25

        It should say "fewer negative thoughts" and "more negative thoughts" not "more positive thoughts" and "more negative thoughts." So the UK is among the least racist countries but does still have racism which is what I thought pink would mean.

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      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 25

        However, this is done on the Harvard Implicit Association Test which I understand not to be well-regarded anyway? So we should probably ignore it. And that might explain Serbia? Or not. I don't know. Weird set up.

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      2. Chris Guest‏ @krisgest Oct 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I think that there is more self-awareness of racism amongst Brits. So you see the UK as being a much more racist place than it actually is.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 25
        Replying to @krisgest

        I don't think its very racist but if yellow is thinking equally positively or negatively about black people - ie not being biased for or against - I'd expect the UK to be almost there but that racism does still exist & is against black (and Asian) people.

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      4. Chris Guest‏ @krisgest Oct 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It's a strange methodology to gauge racism. A country whose population didn't generalise about race at all would come out yellow in this survey.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 25
        Replying to @krisgest

        I have just learnt it doesn't mean that.

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      2. Aventuras na Justiça Social gab.ai/aventuras‏ @aventuras_js Oct 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Implicit Association Tests are not trustworthy. Results often failed to replicate.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 25
        Replying to @aventuras_js

        Yes, I then looked up the study and how it was done.

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      2. Fraser Galbraith‏ @frgalbraith Oct 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        The famously tolerant nation of Serbia there. 🧐

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      3. BABEL‏ @OMNIBABEL Oct 25
        Replying to @frgalbraith @HPluckrose

        Seconding on Serbia С Богом, за веру и отечество

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      1. mumbogumshoe‏ @mumbogumshoe Oct 26
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        What's always been dodgy is that IATs somehow "measure racism". No, they don't, they measure how quick you are to associate certain concepts with skin colors. Racism is a complex bundle of attitudes and behaviors, why anyone thinks it can be measured like this is beyond me.

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      1. Ya boy, SpaceCowboy‏ @Dogsdogsdoge Oct 26
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        "Serbians arent racist" is such a spicy hot take that it just burnt down a Bosnian mosque full of children

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      1. thenormalperson‏ @thenormal_human Oct 26
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Have they ever been to Serbia? Racism and ethnic prejudice is like, their national sport. I have a hard time believing those results.

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      1. Russell Hogg‏ @hogster Oct 26
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Serbia. The epicentre of European liberalism.

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      1. Kev Pike‏ @KevPike87 Oct 25
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        Ahh yes Serbia, that notoriously tolerant country!

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      1. Stephen Rowe‏ @StephenRowe0 Oct 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        More IAT bullsh*t.

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      1. Sumithra Raghavan‏ @sumiraghav Oct 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I don't think yellow means the people there are colour blind. Out of the total number of people surveyed in these region the total number of ppl with racist thoughts must have been in the median as compared to the other two extremes.

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      1. Helot‏ @Helot_ Oct 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        These results were compiled by project implicit, which uses the IAT test that is pretty much worthless rubbish.http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/12/iat-behavior-problem.html …

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