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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 25

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Barry Purcell

      But does that rule apply to you, as a man? I think society is less accepting of "Take responsibility for your own perception of me as intimidating?" when said by a man. In reality, an assessment of feedback of the effect you have on others is probably needed in almost every casehttps://twitter.com/solo1y/status/1055382243638759424 …

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      Barry Purcell @solo1y
      It took me a long time to figure this out. I am not responsible for how other people react to the things I say and do (assuming I'm not actually physically interfering with people). https://twitter.com/AyannaC_/status/1054090285540614150 …
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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 25

      I am occasionally told I am intimidating but this has never been that I am seen as a physical threat. Usually it means I am disagreeing with something too fast, too scathingly and with the use of too many words. (I can get a bit passionate.)

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 25

      I could tell others that they are responsible for their perception of me in this way or I could consider whether I am communicating as effectively as I could be. Sometimes I realise I am doing this & step back from it in process with something like this:pic.twitter.com/4kpOgBmIJr

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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 25

          Obv, it's not always my fault and some people will have a problem with me simply for disagreeing with them. I think there's nearly always a mixture of intention and impact to consider and a person on one side of this could be being much more reasonable than the one on the other

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 25

          I'm almost certainly reading far too much into the first speaker's comment, btw, which could have been a throwaway one or have a specific context & not be the result of an indepth consideration of the correct ethical position to take on the intention vs impact debate.

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        2. Gillian Dempsey‏ @catedempsey Oct 25
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I don't think intimidation is necessarily even down to oral communication. People draw assumptions based on our appearances, what we wear and the default expression on our faces as we wander around with our minds on other things. It is relatively hard to shake first impressions.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 25
          Replying to @catedempsey

          Yes, but I am nearly always told I am intimidating verbally. "There is no need to bash me over the head with your logic" is what one friend said. This usually means I need to be more patient.

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        4. Gillian Dempsey‏ @catedempsey Oct 25
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          It doesn't sound like intimidation - more frustration. No-one is entirely precise in the words they choose. I have a friend whom I dearly love who says I am in love with logic and that I need to be more emotional, but I read that as him trying his best to help me grow as a person

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        1. Jonathan VanBradford‏ @Sir_VanBradford Oct 25
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          The unqualified notion that one is not at all responsible for how he or she is perceived is an absurd and self-righteous way of thinking in general. As you said, how do you know, you're not talking nonsense or are inappropriately aggressive, condescending, insecure, timid, ...?

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        1. Kevin Gomez-26 & centrist‏ @AgainstAvarice Oct 25
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Until we have a computer-brain interface empathy machine for inter-personal communication it's a difficult proposition getting your entire knowledge base out into the open for someone else.

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